>> TK: All right, hello, Jazz, and welcome to the Transformative Taskmaster podcast. >> Jazz: Ahh, yay! >> TK: Whoa! So glad to have you here today. >> Jazz: I'm glad to be here. >> TK: Yes. And we are glad that you're here today because you have provided the community with what I consider to be a very important piece of media that a lot of people will now miss if they only watch Taskmaster on YouTube, I believe, so, >> Jazz: Yeah. And streaming services. But yeah. >> TK: And and streaming services. Yes. So we are going to talk today about the ad breaks. So ad breaks in this case are the bits of the show where in the studio Greg will throw, usually it's Greg will throw to ad breaks. He'll say, you know, we need to have a break, so go watch some ads and we'll be back in a few minutes or whatever. I believe, actually, I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe you can tell me, but the places that I watch Australian Taskmaster and New Zealand… does New Zealand? I know, I know for sure Australia does it, is that they keep the the throws to ad breaks in and Taskmaster UK used to keep the ad breaks in but I think, was it around series eight? Nine? >> Jazz: series 11 is when they started 11 cutting the ad breaks out, and from then on >> TK: Yes. Now we have talked in the past on this podcast specifically about how you are missing a lot of lore if you're missing the throws to ad breaks. So, the community really wanted to have a way to watch the ad breaks because they exist. They just cut them out for places that it wouldn't make sense to have an ad break in, such as streaming services and YouTube. So you took up the mantle and you were like, I'm going to make these little compilations of ad breaks so that people can watch them, which we are very grateful for. So tell us about the process of when did you decide that you were going to be the one to do that project and tell us about what it's been like to do that project? >> Jazz: I think it was not that long after I joined our group chat that we just organically discussed the ad breaks and how they got cut out, and I was like, well, maybe we can compile them or something. I was like, well, I already have too much time on my hands most of the time, so why don't I do it? And I have like very, very basic understanding of, like working with video projects, programs and stuff. And I figured, well, it just has to be basic, like an archival thing so that people can refer back to it for just for funsies or in our cases, for like fanfic, other fan works, whatever you can think of. And so I was like, okay, this doesn't have doesn't need to be the most prettiest thing. It's just very functional in that regard. Yeah, so I just started. I don't remember which, with which video I did start, but I just went ahead at some point when I caught up with all of the, current UK series. I went ahead and kind of went back through the past, I think. Oh yeah. Now that I remember, I started with series 11, I'm pretty sure, and then went on until series 17 back then, which is like a year ago, I think pretty much. And then I went back to the past and went through those, then realized that there were copyright issues, but that's beside the point, so I couldn't upload them to YouTube. Then also went through New Zealand and Australia to do these and now we're here and there's a bunch of that stuff, on YouTube or, other avenues, if you are, so inclined. >> TK: Yeah, I'll definitely be asking you about like, analytics and copyright struggles. Later after our games section. But for now, let's go back to what you said about, you know, its relevance in giving us more fanfic, fodder and also lore in the Taskmaster universe. So what are your highlights or some of your favorite bits in throws to ads that come to mind for you? >> Jazz: Something like a tiny thing from the analytics, which is nothing that I wanted to get into later. Is that most of the shippy stuff, as I could say, is the most stuff that gets repeated or clicked on the most of my videos. So I, I know that people are referring back to those a lot and enjoy them. And, of course, those also give a lot of lore like hell, you could always, mention the kiss sort of series six.. And, there's so many moments and just the way that the two interact, which if they ad breaks, aren't there, it's just one big bit of the show that is missing with them interacting and, especially Greg writing them, as far as I know, from some interview a few years ago, I'm not sure. Greg mentioned that he's the one writing them, so it's. I don't want to say even worse, but it's, it's just a tiny bit of Greg that contribute, no, wait, words words. It's just, a tiny smidge that Greg also gets to contribute in writing. That gets cut away and it's, Yeah, it's it's unfortunate. And I think, yeah, many people enjoy them. And I think I'm waffling around right now, but >> TK: No, you're good. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Because I feel like a lot of the, writing and what I assume is on the autocue is Alex writes stuff and I feel like for the most part, it's mostly generic, you know, talking about here's what the next task is going to be. There's always a clever pun, or there's almost always a clever pun for whatever the task is going to be. Introducing contestants, I'm not sure if Greg writes those. I think maybe >> Jazz: he might, but I'm not sure, I think he has never made a comment on that. >> TK: But yeah, it is really nice to see Greg writing, being involved in the writing process for the, the ad breaks, which is, which is really fun. And there's also some just really wild stuff in those. I keep calling them throws to ad breaks, but I'm just going to call them ad breaks and people will know what I'm talking about. But there's, there's some really unhinged stuff in those because at one point he, and I say, if I remember correctly, it's from series 17, maybe? where he throws to an ad break and then he gets up and bodily throws Alex into the crowd. >> Jazz: oh yeah [both laugh] >> TK: Clearly it’s not Alex, yeah, it’s not Alex, it's it's like, puppet or mannequin or body double, like whatever, you know, human sized puppet or whatever you call it.. And it's like, what, what? what, what, what's happening. >> Jazz: And why >> TK: and why and isn't that always the question? But I it is funny because those types of things are obviously things that Greg has to be keyed in on, like Greg and Alex both have to be keyed in on on this because Alex has to leave, obviously replace himself with the body double, and then Greg has to throw the thing off stage and there's a few instances where this happens both inside and outside of ad breaks, you know, with the spray tans and the matching ponytails and the harness that Alex wears and all this kind of stuff. So there are places where they have to cooperate in order to do these bits. And it's only a little frustrating because in the first ever New York City Q&A that Greg and Alex went to in 2023? >> Jazz: No. It was 24 >> TK: 2024. >> Jazz: Yeah, yeah >> TK: Someone tried to ask that question of like, how does that, like, come together when you have to, like, cooperate on doing these types of things? And Greg is like, I want to be clear, like, none of this is planned. You know, he, Alex will just say stuff and then I have to work with it. And we're like, no, no, no, you didn't understand the question. Like, there are clearly places where something will happen that it has already been pre-communicated about, that you are going to do this thing together and we want to know about those things specifically. And so, you know if we ever get Greg on the podcast I'll make sure that we’re, we're clear in that question. >> Jazz: Yeah. We need to drill down into that narrative especially. >> TK: Yes. Now, as far as the ad breaks themselves, there are, like you said, a lot of, you know, fanfic fodder and stuff. There's the whole kiss where if you don't know what we're talking about, just look up. Series six, episode six Greg and Alex kiss or something. That's probably going to get you where you need to go, but is, is a whole thing and it just ridiculous like it. They really drag it out and it's incredible. And I remember a while ago, I don't remember, I was on our group chat talking about something and one of the pictures from our group chat, I'm just going to show off some Koom merch really quick, but like. Okay, focus! Focus! >> Jazz: There's not even a face apart from the button. >> TK: Focus on the button, you stupid camera, bruh. Okay, well, you get the idea >> Jazz: Maybe you could put your hand behind it. Yeah, >> TK: there we go. Oh. Kind of almost >> Jazz: it did it for a split second >> TK: Anyway. You get the idea. Anyway, that's the kiss. And, like, we all just call it The Kiss. And there have been a couple now, technically, but this is The Kiss. And it's such, like, a monumental thing. And it's such a big deal to us in the, you know, shipping community. And there was like a picture of it up or something. And my partner was just idly glancing over at my computer and he was like, what, what's that from? And I was like, it's from The Kiss. And he's like, what kiss? I was like, when Greg and Alex kissed in series six and he's like, I don't remember this. And I was like…? >> Jazz: fuck, >> TK: How can you not remember the most important thing in history? So I had to go and go on YouTube and I >> Jazz: refresh the memory. >> TK: and just look it up. And I was like, here, this is. And he was like, wow, that's ridiculous. And I was like, that's the name of the show. >> Jazz: [hums in agreement], And it's just, it's just one bit of so many where it just, uhh I remember that one scene, which was also ad break thing when they came back, I think it was series nine. Yes. Where Greg is like Alex explained to me and just me, what happened the last task. And it drags on for like, what feels like an eternity. And it's just one other moment of so many that get cut out and, well, in this case, since the series nine, it didn't cut up. Get cut out from the YouTube version. But I know for a fact that from like specific streaming services, I know that Netflix has them cut from series one. So from the very beginning. So theoretically, the people who have been watching it on Netflix have never seen The Kiss or that scene or. Yeah, many others. >> TK: That's so sad. >> Jazz: Yeah. And then I just imagine it like people watching the show when they're like, oh, I don't see how Greg and Alex can be shipped. And it's like, well, you didn't see the parts that we always refer to or often. Which is the ad break stuff. It's just gets removed. >> TK: Yeah, I was, I was listening to, the fourth episode. No. What, what episode was today? It was the, Oh, no, the sixth, because Alex was fifth. So our the sixth episode of this podcast, we, we talked about this a little bit where, you know, we talked about canon and lore and we talked about how if you are not watching the ad breaks, you are missing like 60% of, you know, this weird lore and especially the shippy part of the lore. And, so yeah, you definitely kind of have to go digging for it a little bit, which is annoying. But that's one of the reasons that we are so appreciative of what you have done, because you have done compilations of them. So it's literally a whole series of, you know, series, series 15, ad breaks, series 16 ad breaks, and you could just watch it all in one sitting and it's great and it's in order. So, you know, very user friendly type of thing. Do you have any theories on why they started cutting ad breaks? Do you think it was for time or do you think it was for, like it just wouldn't make sense if you're watching it on something that doesn't have ads? >> Jazz: [hums] I wouldn't say time. I can't imagine that because I think or I would hope they know that we want to see everything they can show us. I know that like some people in our group chat were like oh we need Taskmaster XL where they show even more stuff. But yeah, I think it is, we don't have ads in between, like a streaming service. Well, used to not have that and now we, like, cut them out so that, I don't, it's cohesive, I think it's the word, which, on YouTube. It used to not make quite sense because there was a feature for someone who owns a channel to put ad breaks at specific times. So they could have used that. I don't know when YouTube removed that feature, though. Which very unfortunate. This would have been the perfect opportunity to keep the ad breaks in and, and have the, like, have, actual ads in there make some bag. But yeah, the feature was removed, so they can't use that. I know that some people also, were like, oh, I don't like the ad breaks because of the, the little staff with the trumpets and stuff, and they're like, oh, no, I always get, some people watched aspect to fall asleep and they're like, oh, I always get woken up by these bits, so I'm glad that they're cut out. But yeah, I think it's mostly a >> TK: What a weird thing to fall asleep to >> Jazz: I have done it as well. I'll be honest. It's just. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's, ad breaks don't make sense in this regard, so it makes more sense to cut them out, which is unfortunate for us, superfans, quote unquote. >> TK: Yeah. And I think it would make a lot more sense to cut them out, especially if nothing really of note happened during the, you know, like, I'm trying to think about, I don't remember what Jeremy Wells does, for ad breaks. My, my gut reaction is that he just says something really boring, like, you know, that's the end of part one. Bye. >> Jazz: yeah, like something, not as far as Greg goes, where he's like, when his. Greg's most basic things are like, oh, now we submit to the throws of capitalism. I think Jeremy might be a little more, I don't want to say basic or boring, but. Yeah. >> TK: Yeah. And then Tom Gleason does this thing that I actually really like, where he sums up what's happening so far in the episode and he'll say, you know, so, so far we've seen, you know, so-and-so do this and so-and-so do this. You know, join us back after the ads to watch the rest of the task or whatever. So I'm always, like, really impressed with that because I know that, like we said earlier, like Greg writes the ad breaks sections and so it's always pre-planned. I mean, I assume always maybe, you know, maybe they, they like something really funny happens and they plug it into the autocue at the last second. But I feel like for the most part, they're pretty generic enough that Greg can just read it and they can use that for whatever ad they need to throw to, you know, at any time in the episode. But Tom Gleason, like he goes throughout the episode, just throwing to ads in a very precise manner in which, like, he references what's already been happening in the episode, which I really like that he does that. I think it's really cool. >> Jazz: Yeah. And it also sets them a little bit apart in terms of style, which is also always very nice. >> TK: Yeah, yeah. For sure. Yeah, I don't know. I'm, I've been, you know, watching the current season of Australia Taskmaster. So it's just been in my brain I guess more recently. But yeah. So it's, pretty annoying that they, they started cutting the ad breaks out of the UK version. Do they do they do do are they cutting it out in other versions as well? Do you know? Because I know you've for other for New Zealand and Australia. >> Jazz: Yeah. They also cut those out. There was like a few instances where I think was like 1 or 2 in like one of the Australia seasons that are already available on YouTube, where they forgot to cut out the ad breaks, which I found hilarious. Well, it's just like, Hello, darkness. My old friend. But, yeah, otherwise they do cut them out and, yeah, same unfortunate thing, which is also why I've compiled them and put them out on YouTube if possible. >> TK: Right. Yeah. Okay. So we're going to talk about your copyright struggles and more analytics and stuff. But before we get to that, it's time for our games section. >> Jazz: Wooo >> TK: Wooo! Ok, these are, I feel like these are going to be so easy for you, but >> Jazz: oh God. You say that >> TK: not not to jinx you or anything, but okay, so we're going to play fact or fanfic. You know, the deal. Probably. I will read three things that Greg will have said to Alex, either in a fic or in real life. And you tell me if it's fact or fanfic. Okay. Number one: Truth. Okay. I want you to eat this dog biscuit, or you can take the dare. >> Jazz: Oh, yeah. Okay. Definitely Fact, oh man. >> TK: Beautiful. >> Jazz: What a scene. >> TK: Yeah. Just I say it. I feel like I say this every time, but these boys really just out here saying shit. >> Jazz: Yeah, and doing shit! Because he ate that dog biscuit, I just earlier I had to show someone the key lime pie thing. >> TK: Oh, gorgeous. >> Jazz: they were like, What do you? What's the key lime pie thing? I'm like, hang on a tick. And oh, God. Yeah, they just do that. It’s, yeah, Very normal. >> TK: Yeah. Totally normal. Haha. Comedy. >> Jazz: Haha. Comedy indeed. >> TK: Okay. Number two. But of even greater importance. I especially enjoyed that you somehow managed to get tied to a chair again. You seem to have made a habit of that, haven't you, little Alex? >> Jazz: [groans] [laughs] [hums] This sounds like it definitely refers to the task that, [stutters] Alex got tied up by rod, and I don't think it happened a second time, so, And so I think it's fanfic. >> TK: Ding ding. Yes, that one's from the final score by, When Life gives you lemons. >> Jazz: Such a good one. >> TK: Such a good one. Oh, my gosh, I really got sucked into that fic. And I was like, Locked in. All right. >> Jazz: waiting for the last chapters. Oooh >> TK: I know right. Number three. That's all a smoke screen. We. are. lovers. >> Jazz: Fact fact fact fact fact >> TK: I told you these were easy. >> Jazz: Yeah. I'm sorry. I thought they would be worse. I thought my colander brain would kick in and I wouldn't remember shit. Oh, God. Yeah, we are lovers. >> TK: Normal. >> Jazz: Yep. >> TK: A normal, totally. A totally normal thing to say to your coworker/boss. >> Jazz: Yeah. Saying this out loud is absolutely >> TK: Totally normal. All right. Great. Good job. You get a little trophy on the website. >> Jazz: Thank you. >> TK: Okay. So let's continue the conversation and let's dive into some of the maybe struggles that you have had with copyright. I know that when you post in our group chat, sometimes you'll be like, all right, y'all wish me luck. You know, we're all, like, crossing our fingers. That it'll go okay, but. So what exactly? Type like what exact type of copyright issues have you been running into with YouTube? Because. Because I feel like I have not really ever uploaded anything that had copyright issues, except for stuff where it was like, yeah, you're using like this pop song. And I was like, oh, right. Of course, like, you know, God forbid I make an AMV. But go ahead >> Jazz: there. But yeah, since I want to preface this, I use copyrighted material it is not mine completely fair that they copyright strike those. Well, they're not striking it, but it gets claimed by content ID. That's completely fair. I do not want to make money from this. I don't make money from this. And, well, the thing is, that it, from what I can see, they upload the full episodes on YouTube as well. So that the stuff that is not on the official channel. In terms of ad breaks and stuff and any other cut stuff theoretical. Also can be claimed by content ID, because otherwise if they didn't upload it themselves, they couldn't be able to be like, hey, YouTube, this is all our stuff. So yeah, they do upload the full episodes somewhere, but hide them. And yeah, it's gotten, from from series one to series ten. I wasn't able to upload anything, which I assume is because Dave has way more stringent, copyright, rules. And now with Avalon, at first it was fine. And it's really started with series 17, where I've got issues, where I've had issues. I shouldn't say, where just like bits, random bits and bobs just got claimed and they were like, oh, you can’t, show this or you can’t publish this at all, like shit. And then I try, to cut around them, which I always find very sad because it means it's not a complete compilation. Which means people don't see everything, and, it's at some points, I can't remember which videos where I would have to check our chat. But some of them, it got so bad that if I re uploaded something where the claims were, remove the claims, then there were new claims would come up. I was like, Holy hell, just give me everything so that I could cut out everything. >> TK: Yeah, just give in one go. >> Jazz: Yeah. Please. And I think it was the most recent. Was it Australian? New Zealand, the last one I uploaded. Oh, my God, I should. I am horribly unprepared. It seems. Let me look this up, real fast. >> TK: [sings a little waiting song] >> Jazz: Yeah. Just put on some elevator music. Oh, yeah. Wait, I can't check YouTube because it's not on there. Spoiler. Let me check the other part. >> TK: This is going on the Patreon. Deleted scenes. >> Jazz: Yeah, definitely. Wondrous things. Now, which one is the last one I uploaded? Oh, look, it's the last modified button. [hums] It was New Zealand, series 4, that just finished uploading. Yeah. Finished uploading on YouTube itself. Which I then wanted to throw a compilation out for and it's just it's fuck, I forgot what I wanted to get to, We're talking about it getting worse and worse. And, >> TK: you were saying how they're sometimes they'll do this thing where they'll send you a copyright claim, and then you fix it, and then they'll send you a new copyright. >> Jazz: Oh, yeah, I got it. Thank you. Yeah. We're, with the last one that I wanted to upload, it did the same thing where it was like, oh, here are five more bits. And then sometimes it was five second bits that got Content ID claimed. And it was just such a hassle. And at some point, from I think the NZ compilations end up being like 30 minute videos in full. I think at the end it was like a five minute compilation, and at that point I was just like, okay, I cannot put this on YouTube, this is ridiculous at this point and so yeah, I never was able to upload that one. And it made me sad, it's how it is. It's not my content and it's fair that they claim it and stuff. >> TK: There's only so much you can do. But it is frustrating because it is stuff that we do want to see, and if they're not releasing it, then how are we supposed to watch it? And especially those of us in countries outside of the UK or outside of Australia, outside of whatever country that the show is airing on television. Because I only ever watch Taskmaster on not television, you know, on my computer. So, yeah, how am I going to inhale that content if not for people like you, you know? >> Jazz: Yeah, super unfortunate. >> TK: Definitely frustrating. But you have gotten a big significant chunk of stuff up on YouTube which, bless. [chuckles] >> Jazz: Yeah I'm glad for everything that is still up. Sometimes I had to retroactively edit stuff out, but it kind of works. So I'm good with that. Yeah, glad for everything that's still there and can be seen on YouTube, readily available and easily accessible. >> TK: So talk to me a little bit about the analytics side. I know that you said earlier that most of the most played or frequently played or whatever it's called, bits are like the shippy stuff, which, makes sense in my mind [laughs] because I'm definitely in that category. But what what other types of trends have you been noticing? >> Jazz: [singsongs] Other types of trends? This is also going on the Patreon. [TK laughs] Hi Patreon guys, people! >> TK: [sings] Hi Patreon! I’m thinking, do you have a series where you have the most views, or is it like a specific episode? >> Jazz: I can tell you for sure that the UK stuff is definitely being watched the most. I assume because it is the the most popular. And the NZ and Australia stuff is far behind, but I originally started out with New Zealand, so it's very near and dear and I shall not abandon it. >> TK: Yeah yeah, we love New Zealand, we love it. >> Jazz: And now that I'm checking, the more recent stuff is more clicked, and then it heavily also depends on what gets shared around on social media which, how to put it... [laughs] Most of my views that come from external sources are, funnily enough, from Reddit, which I was a little bit surprised by. But I will take it. I'm not mad. I'm happy that they get shared around and people find them. So whenever people post it on Reddit - or I think it was once or maybe twice that I was like, hey, this is me, I upload these videos, please watch them. Because I know that some people on Reddit as well miss these ad breaks. So whenever it made its way to Reddit there were big spikes in terms of views and stuff. And now it's the most recent stuff that gets clicked the most, which of course… >> TK: Yeah. Makes sense. >> My brain is starting to fry up, get stir fried brain. >> TK: Now, here's an interesting thing, on the The Taskmaster official YouTube channel there is now a playlist with a singular video in it, at the time of this recording. And that video is basically a compilation of ad breaks. So tell me what your thoughts on that are. >> I am super happy. Honestly. Because it seems like it somehow got to the team that these ad breaks are appreciated and we would like to see them and having them available, by the official YouTube channel will, of course, result in more people seeing them. And they don't have the copyright issues, because they are the copyright holders. And yeah, I've, checked the comments again today just to make sure. And most people were like, hey, we would we would love these compilations all the time and, please put the ad bricks back in the episodes. Some people being like, oh, I'm glad this is a compilation because I don't want them back in the episodes. But yeah. And considering that, the video at the like, from what I checked today, the missing links is what it was called. That video has like 144,000 views, which is not too bad considering that some Junior Taskmaster episodes have less views, which came around the same time, as well as some of the compilations or ultimate episodes, which I would expect more people would want to watch. But apparently the ad breaks are more, I don't want to say more desirable, but, more appreciated, I guess? >> TK: And also I feel like ad breaks, even though the video length may be the same as a Junior Taskmaster episode or another compilation video, I feel like it's almost easier to watch an ad break compilation just because it's very quick, bite sized bits of content, and you can pretty much pause wherever you want in the video and then pick it back up, and it's not like you have to remember what has just happened. You know what I mean? Yeah, so that could be part of it. But I'm just speculating. >> Jazz: And we also had some batshit insane stuff in series 18 in terms of ad breaks, so I could see why people might also want to come back for that. >> TK: Yeah that's true. Yeah. And yeah I guess if they are promoting little bits of it on social media and then redirecting people to click through to the full video, then that might also help get clicks. But I don't know anything about that. I'm not in charge of that kind of stuff for this podcast. [laughs] >> Jazz: Yeah, I'm also I'm horrible at social media, which people might have realized when they try to see updates on my ad break stuff. I'm not good at keeping up with that stuff. Like, hey guys, this is what's been happening! I'm going to upload this soon! I'm trying my best, but I'm not very good at it. >> TK: Yeah. Good times. So I want to talk a little bit about something that is in the similar vein of the ad breaks, but a little bit different, which is the interstitials. But before we go to the interstitials, because that's pretty much the last bit before we wrap up, is there anything else that you'd like to talk about regarding ad breaks? >> Jazz: Good question. Marvelous question that. No, I can't see anything on my list. >> TK: Okay. So let's end. Maybe I'll have an episode on this podcast at some point that's just talking about interstitials, because they fascinate me. So the interstitials, for those people that aren't aware of what this word means, and I didn't know what this word means because until, you know, we were asking about it in the group chat and somebody said that that word and I had to Google it and look it up because I was like, I don't know what that means. And then I Googled it and it was no help at all because it didn't say anything. And I was like, okay, what are interstitials? And they're when the assistant goes on the camera and they tell you what part you're about to be on or what part you're leaving before the ad break. So, it's Alex waving at the camera and he's number two, you know, holds up the number two with his hands. Or, the most recent episode of Taskmaster Australia that I have watched at the time of recording this was Lesser Tom balancing like red yoga balls on top of each other, and I was trying so hard to figure out how he was doing that because I'm like, surely there must be some kind of string attaching them behind the balls I could not figure it out. And I was like, that's impressive. Like at this point, it was really cool. But I love the interstitials, and I am going to say something that might be controversial, but I enjoyed the interstitials from the other countries more than I enjoyed the UK interstitials, and that is not to say that I do not enjoy Taskmaster UK interstitials because I dearly, dearly love them, but Paul Williams and Tom Cashman are incredible people and their interstitials are so clever. And again, not to say that Alex's aren't, but I feel like I've almost been oversaturated with Alex holding up one finger and then Alex holding up two fingers and there's only so many times I can watch this man holding up three fingers before I'm like, okay, we get it. And obviously I'm- this is a joke. I love all of Alex's interstitials, but I think so. I feel like somebody asked Tom Cashman, once do you come up with the ideas for the interstitials? And he said, yeah, sometimes I do, and sometimes it's other people and and oh man, I should have asked Alex actually, now that I think about it, who comes up with those. honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he comes up with those as well. >> Jazz: But I wonder if he'd ever disclose that, because I feel like in the back of my mind that it's like, oh yeah, Alex comes up with these, or tries a lot. Oh, that sounds so mean. >> TK: No, I know, I know what you mean. Yeah, I mean, they're just really fun, again, with 19 series coming up, not to mention all of the champion of champions, series, again, it is really hard to keep coming up with new ideas and different things you can do for interstitials. One of my all time favorite ones is from New Zealand, where Paul has, a bunch of marshmallows and for whatever number of segments that you're in, he puts another marshmallow in his mouth. So, you get to the fourth and he's putting four- And I was like, I'm like, I can't- what- you can't do this to me, Paul. Oh my gosh. There it’s- >> Jazz: Why are you playing interstitial chubby bunny? >> TK: Please let that be the title of this episode. Interstitial chubby bunny! [laughs] >> Jazz: Feel free to do so! >> TK: So funny oh my gosh. Okay, I'm writing that down. after-. Like I mean there's. They're just like, there's so good and like and also some of them are really creepy. Like recently Tom has had this- What is it, a fisheye lens? Is that what it's called? I hate those things. I hate when you like, come up to it and your, forehead is super big. I don't like this. He looks so creepy. And yeah, interstitials. I feel like I really should just have a whole episode on it, because there's so many different types of themes and ideas that they go with, and props that they use and it's all very cool. >> Jazz: But what I also love a lot about them is the fact that- I'm not 100% sure on New Zealand and Australia, but for the UK version, it's- oh, I moved my mic. That, you see, the specific example I have in my brain right now is from Junior Taskmaster, where Mike Wozniak is in the caravan with a bunch of balloons, and you're just like, oh, he's having a fun time. Nice balloons, whee! And then a few episodes down, it turns out that there's a task involving exactly that, caravan full of balloons; good luck! Yeah. And the way that they foreshadow certain tasks in these interstitials. And then when you find out you're like, oh! pointing to the screen meme- Oh shit. That's it! And, yeah, it's so much fun. And the way that they sprinkle these in, and most of the time also keep them consistent throughout an episode. It's just lovely. Yeah. >> TK: And it must be super fun filming those. Like I can only imagine how much fun they would have doing that. >> Jazz: This and the B-roll for the task introductions. We should have an episode on those I think. I agree, the interstitials and the B-roll, some of those are so good. I agree. (someone sneezes) Oh bless you. TK: Jazz says bless you. Oh, are you done? (offscreen) Maybe. >> Jazz: Maybe? You won't spoil. >> TK: Oh no spoilers. Yeah. One of the ones for Mike that particularly stands out is when he's just sitting there spinning on the rotating disc. >> Jazz: Oh yeah. >> TK: I loved that. That was so adorable. >> Jazz: Or the one that is he wheeling through the garden with on a skateboard or something.. What is he- I remember he was on something that he was wheeling through the garden with. And I remember especially- >> TK: A wagon? >> Jazz: It might have just been a wagon. Yeah. Because I remember when making the thumbnail for the ad break video, I always go through these interstitials and I'm like, what can I use? I was trying so hard to find a frame where he’s still, >> TK: I remember you talking about that.. Because you're like, I really want to use this, but like, stop moving so fast. >> Jazz: Yeah, some of these are harder than others when it comes to these interstitials and finding thumbnails. >> TK: Yeah, yeah. For sure. Okay. Well, yeah. Well, I'll have to pitch that to the team for a future episode as just, Let's talk about interstitials. So we're going to wrap up our episode today. We always ask our guests if they have any fan work recommendations.. So please Jazz. Tell me your fan worth recommendations. >> Jazz: So, the first one is a fanfic by the wonderful Illuminescence. Illuminescence? How do you pronounce it? >> TK: Illuminescence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. >> Jazz: Okay, but the wonderful Illuminescence, The Thing You'd Most Like to Give a Great Big hug to and never let go. >> TK: So good. >> Jazz: Yes. I was so glad when this idea was picked up and executed so well by her. And I'm forever grateful. And then I went ahead and just got some rare pair suggestions, because we can always do that. And they always need a little more love. And, yeah. And the other one I was thinking of was a little bit aggressive when I flirt by rote memory, which is, Will Anderson and Tom Cashman, which is something that the both of us were very, very, very enthusiastic about. And I wish more people were like, oh, what do you mean? They just suddenly talk about, whatever. You will have to watch Taskmaster Australia and please get behind it or, yeah, it's just so much. It's a lot. Yeah. And then I have a real taskmaster by you, Oh. Do you want me to say LadyJekyll? Just making sure. >> TK: Whatever. I feel like at this point, people might as well know, if they haven't figured it out already. >> Jazz: So I have, A Real Taskmaster, by you, which is, Jeremy, Paul and Greg and Alex together. And oh, I don't even have words. It's just so good. And we need more love for the Australian and New Zealand versions. And, I can't wait to see more. Especially when it comes to New Zealand. Because ever since season five, some things, some flip- no. some switch flipped in Jeremy, it feels like. And I need more of that. >> TK: see for sure. Yeah yeah one of the unfortunate things about having a rare pair where your rare pair is Tom Cashman and Paul Williams, is that you need people to have watched both Australia and New Zealand. The struggle is real. >> Jazz: Yeah. But hey I can see it, I love it, I support it. >> TK: Sweet. Well thank you for your recommendations and the ad break compilations that you have done are on YouTube. Tell us where we can find those. >> Jazz: The YouTube channel is called you magnificent beast. And I also have a link tree attached to that if you want to delve a little bit deeper. But otherwise, yeah, the stuff on YouTube: readily available. >> TK: Cool. Yeah. And we should be able to link that also in the description of wherever you are listening to or watching this podcast. So you can also do that if you want, if you don't want to type in you Magnus. Magnificient. And I'm tired too, man. If you don't want to type in you magnificent beast into a search bar on YouTube, then you can click the link in the description. That was almost so cool. Then I was like, noo. Oh my gosh, it's time for a nap. Okay, well, Jazz, thank you so much. Thank you so much. What is my voice doing at the end of this podcast? I swear. Thank you so much for coming on to the Transformative Taskmaster podcast. We have loved having you on. Maybe I'll get you back on for the interstitials discussion. And seriously, thank you for all of your work with the ad break compilations. Everybody go make sure you check those out because they're really good. And I know that you've said that you're not a huge video editor or whatever, but they're actually really well done. So, good job. >> Jazz: Maybe I just have stupidly high standards. >> TK: don't we all? >> Jazz: But I feel that they’re just very basic. But I'm very glad that people enjoy them. And I hope that many people will still come to enjoy them. And I am always glad for all the support. >> TK: Sweet. Well, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. >> Jazz: Yeah. Thank you for having me. >> TK: See you online. >> Jazz: Bye bye! >> TK: bye.